Saturday, August 29, 2009

Lip fungus?

Finally feeling good enough to go outside and do a little weeding in the gardens after the Chicken Pox (I STILL had scabbed-over pox, but felt pretty good), malady II struck the very same day.

I wouldn't think that a garden fungus (like the one on my green beans) could be transmitted to humans, but SOMETHING happened to my lips:

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I'm treating the lips with cider vinegar (in case it's a yeast problem) and virgin coconut oil (in case it's a fungus problem), discontinuing all lip products (in case it's an allergy problem).

I could have looked like Angelina Jolie had the malady affected both sides of the lips equally, but it didn't.

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Gross ma.

Oldnovice said...

It (they?) actually look quite a bit better today. You stopped by during a period of astringent application, so you saw scabby lips. Fungi like warm, moist, so if it was a fungus, I figured drying it out would kill it, and it looks like it did, because once the dry stuff was peeled away, the lips below were pretty normal.

I'm not gonna do more weeding until Thursday so as to defer any possible fungus transmission until after we've gone to Winstar tomorrow. Priorities, ya know.

Ann said...

Yuck, thanks for the close up of your fungi lips. That is quite nasty looking, but thanks for sharing..I guess

Anonymous said...

I just came across your site after doing a search. Seems like I have the same problem. Did you apply the cider directly onto your lips? I read that consuming yogurt helps as well. Thanks for the post!

Oldnovice said...

I keep a small dish of apple-cider vinegar around the house for fire-ant bites. If you use it immediately after getting bit, the bites don't itch as much, so I just dipped a cotton ball into the dish for lip application and then threw away the cotton with NO double-dipping.

Diane (offline) shared with me something a Dermatologist had shared with her regarding commercial dandruff shampoos(any brand, including generic): Can be used to relieve fungus, yeast, heat rash, acne problems. I've been just using it like body wash and my skin looks better than it ever has.

Based on how many people have found their way here googling "lip fungus", I think it's a pretty common problem worldwide. Who Knew, eh?

Elizabeth said...

OMG I cannot believe this I have been batteling this for years and they say it was excezma when I saw your picture that is what mine look like. The cocunut oil where can you get that and do you apply it during the day when they are so dry. What does it do with healing. Also is their anything to take internally to help it does not come back

Oldnovice said...

Hi, Elizabeth. I didn't have the problem very long, but ... YES, the coconut oil can be applied to the lips at any time. I tend to take a shotgun approach, which is to say I tend to use a little bit of EVERYTHING I've heard could work.

So, I would, for instance, wash my lips with vinegar and then rub on coconut oil. I might also eat yogurt, make sure I'm getting enough B12, use coconut oil in place of other oil in recipes (or just take a spoonful of it each day). It IS a food, afterall! I buy mine at a store called Whole Foods, but you can find it anywhere natural foods are sold. Don't be alarmed if it changes from a liquid to a solid once you get it home. It responds to temperature changes which in no way affect the product.

While the coconut oil offers immediate relief from the dryness, it's not like a chapstick and your lips will feel dry soon again. What I did was wash my lips with the vinegar again and reapply a little more of the oil, repeating that process of vinegar followed by the oil all day. I would use a fresh cotton ball for each application so I wasn't dipping an infected cotton ball into either product.

Good luck! Come back and report on your progress.

Elizabeth said...

Thank you for the help. I found something at our Sprouts that has Cococut Oil and Tea Tree Oil in it so with the vinegar and that I am doing better. I am also picked up some Yeast-Cleanse supplements and ProBiotics to take as I have dealth with this so long thought that might help

After resesarch I am finding to alter my diet and watch anything that has yeast in it also no sugar as yeast grown with sugar.

emxry lqzanq said...

Haha weird! I too, seemed to have contracted an infection of the lip (fungal, i believe)... and stumbled on your blog through google!

For anyone else that might come through here searching for answers: my all-natural home remedy!

-A couple of teaspoons of turmeric
-Eight drops of tea tree oil
-A tablespoon of coconut oil (or olive oil, if c. oil is unavailable).

The turmeric kills bacteria, the tea tree kills fungi and the oil allows for easy application and keeps the turmeric and tea tree oil from making your lips too crusty.

I've been applying it for three days and it seems to be clearing up! Good luck to everyone :D

Anonymous said...

I feel better that I have found some answers. I am a serious lip licker and the slick feeling on my lips made my mouth feel weird. When I realized it was my lips I made sure that I stopped licking them. I have begun eating greek yogurt and I had been unsing listerin to wipe my lips with. I will use the Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar and some of the other home remedies I've read about. Thank you for all the info!!

Daniel said...

Just use an anti-fungal cream. Same stuff you'd use for athelete's foot. Putting food on your face will just keep the area moist (bad), and you're just feeding the fungus.

Anonymous said...

I went through the same thing for almost a year.....it would come back in a few months, then every month, then as soon as I healed it would come right back. I actually went to the hospital ER, and found a female doctor to was hip to what was going on. I took 2 weeks of 150mg Fluconazole, plus was told by the doc to take oil of oregano, and apple cider vinegar. I got better almost immediately, and stuff was drying up all over my body! (little red patches I just thought were nothing) It was amazing!! What is it? You guessed it ---systemic yeast infection. Some doctors (many)do not believe this can take place. I was blessed to find a great woman doc who helped. Yeah, you started a fire with this post, because the problem is rampant in the US. Topical meds did NOT work for me, including anti-fungals for feet, etc. I hope this info helps someone who looks up "lip fungus" in the future.

Anonymous said...

I went through the same thing for almost a year.....it would come back in a few months, then every month, thes as soon as I healed it would come right back. I actually went to the hospital ER, and found a female doctor to was hip to what was going on. I took 2 weeks of 150mg Fluconazole, plus was told by the doc to take oil of oregano, and apple cider vinegar. I got better almost immediately, and stuff was drying up all over my body! (little red patches I just thought were nothing) It was amazing!! What is it? You guessed it ---systemic yeast infection. Some doctors (many)do not believe this can take place. I was blessed to find a great woman doc who helped. Yeah, you started a fire with this post, because the problem is rampant in the US. Topical meds did NOT work for me, including anti-fungals for feet, etc. I hope this info helps someone who looks up "lip fungus" in the future.

Judy said...

Did any of you have tingling/burning on your tongue or sore gums? This stuff just came upon me about a month ago and my doc doesn't know what it is. I'm going to see my dentist in 2 days and then an ENT doc next week.

Help!

Oldnovice said...

No tingling or sore gums here, Judy.

Stop back and tell us the diagnosis.

Anonymous said...

Just got the diagnosis....oral yeast infection. Not sure how it developed, but I'm finally getting some meds and hopefully some relief!!!

Thanks for the post.

Judy

Anonymous said...

I'm going through the same thing. For 5 months my lips have been dry and chapped. I tried everything for the lips I could, even looking on-line for ideas. They ended up just constantly peeling and cracking until I couldn't even eat from the pain and stinging. I finally went to the doctor and he said it was a lip fungus and gave me a prescription for diflucan, a med for yeast infections. Told me if it helped, to use the 2 refills. If not, I have to see a dermatologist. I took it for the 2 days and I was so much better. I was out yesterday, and by last night I was itching and have the small blisters back. I'm off to get the refill today. I haven't tried the apple cider vinegar or yogurt. I'll try that. Hopefully with the meds, I can finally be rid of this fungus.

Heather

Marg- said...

I have a lip fungus and it looks just like the picture. I had it once before and I treated it with oil of oregano. It burns like the dickens if you put it on your lips, but it will clear it up in 2 days. I'm actually taking the oregano by putting about 7 drops in a capsule and swallowing it, twice a day. I hope to clear it up quickly without having to put it directly on my lips. But it definitely works! Its an anti fungal, anti bacterial and anti viral treatment.

Sharon said...

Wow am I ever glad I found THIS site...I've been dealing with this EXACT same disorder and when I saw that picture of your lips I KNEW I had a funguus and not just cold sores. I thought I could clear this up on my own and I tried EVERYTHING but no luck. My doctor gave me a RX for antibiotics and Valtrex but I'm thinking I'll need the 150mg Fluconazole after reading these posts. I will also try the Oil of Oregano for healing. God Bless this Site :))

Sharon said...

P.S. I did take Benedryl capsules and a 24 hour time released Allergy pill that did seem to help clear up the redness and swealing, but it kept me drowsey and that was the only side effect. There are lip balms out there with Tea Tree Oil (Lypisol) which does help soothe the soreness so you can at least eat and drink without so much pain.

Anonymous said...

I have had lip fungus 3 times now and it's just about the most unpleasant experience. It has always been brought on by a sunburn to my lips that led me to over-moisturizing my lips with Vaseline (the ideal environment for fungal growth!). The only thing that works for me is a Nystatin prescription. With my most recent experience, I combined a Nystatin powder with Desitin cream (for baby diaper rash) - this was a recommendation from my sister who is a nurse. It worked pretty much immediately!!! It's been 24 hours and my lips are almost completely healed! I tried a few natural remedies like yogurt and slices of potato and also an over the counter anti fungal cream and by far, Nystatin works best. Good luck!!

Anonymous said...

Hi there! Well I think after doing my own research I mite have lip fungus . went to my dr. today he said that what I have on my lips was not herpes and that he couldn't see anything really wrong with my lips to just wait a few days or weeks and that I mite feel better lol .man I'm gonna start looking for a new dr. anyway I'm gonna try the vinegar and coconut oil I hope it helps:)

Anonymous said...

I had the same thing for a couple of weeks, tried all sorts of balms and antibiotic ointments (26/Male) no luck.

Doc presecribed (2) 150mg Fluconazole pills (i laughed when i saw what it usually treated, but hey, fungus is fungus)

I'm pretty confident it will clear up after reading all of this.

Worst. Feeling. Ever.

Mine were red, swollen, weeping clear fluid, and scabbing over during a night's sleep...terrible thing, terrifying almost.

hope this helps someone else who has the unfortunate luck of getting oral fungus.

Anonymous said...

I see your posts are from 2009 well, I'm so thankful to have found this bit of information. It's like GOLD! I started with this 7 months ago. Just recently it has been the worst. I finally went to my doctor. Put me on a steroid systemically and topically. Cleared it up but came back full force. So, now I have an appointment to see my dermatologist and a holistic doctor too. So, we will see what happens. In the mean time I went ahead and purchased tea tree oil, oil of oregano, castor oil and apple cider vinegar. The castor oil applied on my lips seems to help the best for now. Once again, THANK YOU for this wonderful information. Such a relief until I can get into see my dermatologist. JDCRDH

Anonymous said...

Mother Nature Knows Best!! Thanks so much for the blog Oldnovice! I developed a fungal lip infection over a month ago and have been battling it with anti fungal creams and Toxic Nizoral Tablets with little or no relief. I took your advice and 3 days later the lesion dried up and peeled off with Skin underneath almost back to normal. I layered apple cider vinegar,tea tree oil, coconut oil, canesten cream and Weleda Baby Nappy(diaper) change cream! I'm also taking Vit B2 and Probitics. I plan to start taking coconut oil and yoghurt as a routine. This is amazing!

Anonymous said...

Thqnk goodness for this site: No doctors know what to do with lip fungus. Lips are swollen, weeping, cracked at the sides, painfull, peeling, burning, tingling. It is awful. My lips are enormous and sore. I have tried vitimin E, Coconut oil and neither have worked. I have been off surgar completely for two weeks and so far no improvement. Today I started an anti fungal cream and I will also try the apple cidar vinegar. I also have anti allergy medicine but am not sure if this medicine feeds the yeast. Any ideas. Thanks for this site.

Anonymous said...

I had the cracking in my lips for a month. I was so scared I didn't know what it was. I went to the Doctors and the Dermatologist, nothing seemed to help. I have tried every home remedy there was. However, the one thing I didnt try was a natural as they come, TAKING MY VITAMINS! I was reading online everywhere and saw posts about eating Broccoli. As soon as I started eating broccoli I started feeling a difference, Also the second time I went back to the Derm. he gave me some Zinc Oxcide, I think that helped as well. Then I ordered my Vitamins (B Complex and B2 400).

Soon as I received them and started taking them my cuts where feeling better day by day. I also got tea tree oil and I just love how it feels and smells, and I would rub that on my lips and then I would open one of my B2 400 pills on the areas and I was like magic. I feel so much better but I honestly think TAKING YOUR VITAMINS, EATING BROCCOLI and Tea Tree oil did me justice. GOOD LUCK!!

Anonymous said...

And thank you sooo much for this website!!!....I has helped me sooo much!!!!

Anonymous said...

I've been battling lip fungus for a few years (on and off). My doctor prescribed Clotrimazole and Betamethasone Dipropionate Cream (1%/0.05%) but it never worked that good for me. It starts to clear up and then comes back. I'm going to try the apple cider vinegar and other suggestions here. Thanks to all for your help.

Anonymous said...

TGFor this site My Dr treated my lips as an alergy which didn't do any good. another Dr finally prescribed the nystaten 2 times a day and the 2nd time i use it is before bed and in the Am my lips look much better but as the day progresses they are worse. I am going to ask my primery Dr4 for diflucan it has worked for other fungus infections. DLW

Anonymous said...

Desertdweller says,
I've been suffering for 2 months with some kind of fungal infection on my lips that I contacted from mulched leaf debrie while working in my yard. Within 4 days of the contact I got a burning rash on my lips and what looked like a cold sore. After 8 days of trying cold sore meds. I went to the Doctor and she said I had a staff infection. After taking antibiotics the cold sore and the staff infection went away, but left me with sore, red, and irritated lips and it was getting worse. Even my tongue was tingling on the tip. My Doctor said to use fungal cream (Clotrimazole). After 2 weeks it wasn't much better so I went to a Dermatologist. He said it was too far into the healing to get a culture sample and just use Aquaphor cream to keep it soft.
Well, I read this site and immediately went and bought Bragg's Apple cider vinegar and I had a big reaction from my lips.
They have started peeling and the layer of sticky glue has started to come off. I'm going to get the teatree oil and oil of oregano next. I have a Doctor's app. next week so we"ll see what she says.
I may go back to the Derm if it flares up again. Thanks so much for all the information. It's been very educational.

Anonymous said...

Hi Judy,
With medication did ur lips heal? And what medication were u prescribed?

Anonymous said...

Did the meds work?

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Anonymous said...

I found this post because of the picture that looked just like my lips. Sooo painful itchy and did not want to contaminate anyone.I think I had it two years continuously off and on. Asked my Doctor is it herpes he said no (I don't know). He then said it was stress related pertaining to an imbalance in my body (good verse bad bacteria). I tried everything, coconut oil, vinegar you name it!
What worked for me was two parts water and one part vinegar. I dabbed it on with a cotton ball every time it started to itch. Holy Hell when is it going to stop. My Brother-in-law and I were talking at an Easter celebration and he knew how to fix it. He had fungus feet and hands from sports.

Neutrogena hand cream 2 OZ. fragrance free(Norwegian Formula). It comes in a white box with a black label with name Neutrogena close to the bottom. Took me a few days to get to drug store and just kept drying my lips out with the vinegar and water mixture.

One small dab on my lips and I thank God every day!

I never want what ever it was ever again!

I keep vinegar and hand cream close by and I thank God it is gone for I think three years.

Thanks for helping me ma

Anonymous said...

18I found this post because of the picture that looked just like my lips. Sooo painful itchy and did not want to contaminate anyone.I think I had it two years continuously off and on. Asked my Doctor is it herpes he said no (I don't know). He then said it was stress related pertaining to an imbalance in my body (good verse bad bacteria). I tried everything, coconut oil, vinegar you name it!
What worked for me was two parts water and one part vinegar. I dabbed it on with a cotton ball every time it started to itch. Holy Hell when is it going to stop. My Brother-in-law and I were talking at an Easter celebration and he knew how to fix it. He had fungus feet and hands from sports.

Neutrogena hand cream 2 OZ. fragrance free(Norwegian Formula). It comes in a white box with a black label with name Neutrogena close to the bottom. Took me a few days to get to drug store and just kept drying my lips out with the vinegar and water mixture.

One small dab on my lips and I thank God every day!

I never want what ever it was ever again!

I keep vinegar and hand cream close by and I thank God it is gone for I think three years.

Thanks for helping me ma

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